Grimrock

whackangel wrote:So, it's going to be the same soft to edit dungeons in LoG2 or will there be an up-date, or a new soft... aaarg too many questions, so much excitment !!!

The new Dungeon Editor 2 is built in, just like the editor in Grimrock 1.

Can't wait for the editor. Hopefully I will build something better than the lost continent, with the experience , and new Scripting stuff. Will it be possible to randomize items variable in game (for my crafting system ?)

cromcrom wrote:Can't wait for the editor. Hopefully I will build something better than the lost continent, with the experience , and new Scripting stuff. Will it be possible to randomize items variable in game (for my crafting system ?)

Sure! With a little scripting, I don't see why not.

so it means we can import our dungeons from Grimrock 1 and improve them with this nex editor?

pulpum wrote:so it means we can import our dungeons from Grimrock 1 and improve them with this nex editor?

I doubt this; I certainly hoped for this, but the maps are different in LoG2, from what I've read.

Sorry, this is not possible. So much has changed... But a clever modder could make a tool to convert at least the basic dungeon layout to the new system.

Leki wrote:Hi petri, in that super-cool component system, I guess champion can be defined in the same way, right? I mean can we define custom asset "champion"? Entity with components like name, class, skills, portrait, sounds and all atributes etc?

Unfortunately no, it would have been a HUGE effort to refactor champions like that. The problem is that the GUI has to make certain assumptions about how the champions are made -- for example, there is only so much space for attributes, and the layout of inventory slots is fixed.

The main way to customize champions is to give them traits.

petri wrote:

Leki wrote:Hi petri, in that super-cool component system, I guess champion can be defined in the same way, right? I mean can we define custom asset "champion"? Entity with components like name, class, skills, portrait, sounds and all atributes etc?

Unfortunately no, it would have been a HUGE effort to refactor champions like that. The problem is that the GUI has to make certain assumptions about how the champions are made -- for example, there is only so much space for attributes, and the layout of inventory slots is fixed.

The main way to customize champions is to give them traits.

I see... you know - nowday there is not a simple/safe way to remove, let me say armour skill if you gonna replace fighter with mage. So the point is not in the inventory but in reseting/removing skill. We can store atributes in array and write custom function like loadNpc() etc, but we cannot reach "hardcoded" things like Champion:trainSkill(“armors”, -1, dontSpendPoints) - it doesn't supporting 0 or better -1 --> remove skill... The point is that we cannot "change chapoions profession" let me say from fighter to mage because it's part of the story - mage is still keeping his "invisible" warrior "armour" skill ...
So in LoG2 we can "change proffesion" and "change theirs traits tree" and it will work?
If I have stored 6 champions, can I make 4paty members parties in that way? I mean injecting stored attributes into champion slot?

Oh yeah, it's possible to add/remove traits and skills. The modifiers they add are non-destructive nowadays.