[MOD] Eternal Recurrence 1.3

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Re: [MOD] Eternal Recurrence 1.2

Post by Nathaniel » Sun Jun 10, 2018 10:11 am

Hi guys! :)

Unfortunately I could not play this interesting game. But I was recently asked a question. Look closely at the screenshot below. The questioner asks about the marked strips above the character interface, above the strips of life and energy.
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What it is? And why is this indication absent in the current version?
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Re: [MOD] Eternal Recurrence 1.2

Post by AndakRainor » Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:36 pm

Hello!

This bar shows the warmth/cold felt by the character. In the current version, it did not really disappear, but it is only shown in the relevant maps: desert, volcanic and snow covered maps. It is hidden in other maps.

If characters fall in extreme cold or warmth on this scale, they take cold or fire damage. They start complaining about it the more they loose health. It can be countered with specific equipment. Warm clothes or armors, torch, fire/ice blades, light clothes, elemental armors, casting spells, standing next to a wall torch, etc, all have an effect on this.

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[MOD] Eternal Recurrence 1.3

Post by AndakRainor » Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:09 pm

Version 1.3 available!
https://www.nexusmods.com/legendofgrimrock2/mods/103

update notes:
- New features: towns, taverns, shops, quests!

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Re: [MOD] Eternal Recurrence 1.3

Post by Pompidom » Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:08 pm

Oh boy,

Where to begin...

I downloaded v1.3. Never played Eternal Recurrence before.
I started a new party on Hard.

Level 1 started me in a town, one of the quests was saving a guy on level 2.

Go rescue the guy, and finish the quest. I'm now sitting at roughly 300 Gold only 30 minutes in having only played 1 level.

2 Hours in and 600+ gold.

Now considering that you can buy all these alchemy ingredients for dirt cheap at shops, am I to assume that I can craft a bunch of Skill point potions like in Magic of Grimrock?

Then I figured out, you can just recruit all the others, strip them off their gear and coins and then drop them back off at the inn.
I stopped playing after level 4 :(

It's a great system, but imbalanced and way too easy to abuse.

The current town is just a place to build a Godlike party with 200 + strength bear forms, no cooldown attacks and 1000+ hp/energy if you know what you're doing.

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Re: [MOD] Eternal Recurrence 1.3

Post by AndakRainor » Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:56 pm

Hey that's not very nice to strip other characters XD
Ok this was a very big update and I'm still fixing things as we speak. I guess a lot a re-balancing is coming soon :)
I already raised all shop prices by 5 times their previous value. I'll take any suggestion you may have !

Edit: Magic of Grimrock does not have more herbs than vanilla Isle of Nex...

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Re: [MOD] Eternal Recurrence 1.3

Post by Pompidom » Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:52 pm

What I meant about the alchemy ingredients was that currently as soon you find the recipe, you can basically craft an insane amount of skill point potions for dirt cheap. Changing the price won't change much. Your party is basically low level trash without spells without the recipe. And as soon you do find the recipe, the game is basically over as your party becomes Godlike.

Balancing this will be very hard. And even if you manage to balance it out, I doubt it will be fun to play.

Your extensive spell system doesn't require 2 mages, it requires only 1 mage with all schools maxed.
Anyone that hasn't played Magic of Grimrock before will be confused by the mass amount of spells and frustrated how most useful (overpowered) spells are gated behind a 20 skillpoint requirement (5 fire/5 ice/5 light/5 water)

This worked flawless in Magic of Grimrock which I enjoyed on Hard because you gain levels fast there.
2 knights in permanent bear form and 1 battlemage with every single party spell aura activated.
I enjoyed Magic of grimrock and finished it all the way through. It was over the top and partially imbalanced, but with the increased monster difficulty for each character level it stayed challenging and fun, the bosses were all about using the max potential of all the available spells. It was the main campaign on steroïds. And it was a blast.

Eternal Recurrence however at the pure base is not. Your random map generator is amazing, no doubt about that, but it generates bland levels with easy monsters that roll over when you just look at them.
It's not challenging, nor rewarding, no goal.

I'll definitely give all future versions a try.

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Re: [MOD] Eternal Recurrence 1.3

Post by Slayer82 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:01 am

Excellent work, AndakRainor.

This mod is like a new game; especially because of the shops and side quests.

I just wish I had more time to play it :lol:

I appreciate the work that you have put into this mod.
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Re: [MOD] Eternal Recurrence 1.3

Post by RMariano » Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:43 pm

Works very nice, look great but are not supposed to feed our characters? When I try, it locks the game up.
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Re: [MOD] Eternal Recurrence 1.3

Post by Pompidom » Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:29 pm

Are you feeding a farmer?
Which food item are you using?
New party? or imported party?

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Re: [MOD] Eternal Recurrence 1.3

Post by AndakRainor » Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:59 pm

It could be (I'll check soon...) due to a party prepared with a mod that lets you use dual classes. Just be warned that dual classes won't work in my mods! I've seen it used several times by players, maybe I should do something for it, however I don't think it's really supported by the game engine. In my mods it would definitely trigger an infinite loop between class fixes for the smoothed XP curve.

Also, Pompidom, I don't forget your private message, but I'm very busy at the moment (fixing this mod among other things), so I'll answer you in details later :)

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