GOG and future Mac downloads

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GOG and future Mac downloads

Post by jwdenzel » Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:18 pm

Congratulations on the new game. I'll definitely be getting it right away.

That said, are there any plans to make this available on Gog.com like you did for LoG1?

Also, if we buy the PC version right away, will we be eligible to get the Mac version later when it becomes available?

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Re: GOG and future Mac downloads

Post by eisberg » Wed Sep 17, 2014 9:14 pm

Yes, but that is because you can use the Steam key you'll get, and if/when they release a Mac version you get the mac version as well on Steam.

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Re: GOG and future Mac downloads

Post by Vainamoinen » Thu Sep 18, 2014 1:09 pm

I second that GOG preorders should be set up ASAP. :D

Humble DRM free is great and all, but being slapped with an additional Steam key strikes me as an unfair advantage in competition and needless catering to the monopoly. I'd rather not support Valve, however microscopic their share, and go through GOG.

Yet I'm still VERY willing to pre-order Grimrock 2, and I usually don't pre-order anything, ever! :)

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Post by Claudia » Thu Sep 18, 2014 2:23 pm

Pelase, make it available on gog.com like GR1 was at relase. I wanna play it asap :( :(

(btw, funny 'captcha' thing you got to confirm registration :mrgreen: )

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Re: GOG and future Mac downloads

Post by petri » Thu Sep 18, 2014 2:43 pm

Vainamoinen wrote:Humble DRM free is great and all, but being slapped with an additional Steam key strikes me as an unfair advantage in competition and needless catering to the monopoly. I'd rather not support Valve, however microscopic their share, and go through GOG.
I think you are mistaken. When you buy directly from us, you don't support Steam. We get 95% of the revenue, Humble gets 5% because our store is powered by Humble's servers and widget.

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Re: GOG and future Mac downloads

Post by Vainamoinen » Thu Sep 18, 2014 2:56 pm

Not mistaken, just misunderstood.

Humble is mostly a Steam key reseller, and even if Valve does not get a share out of the whole deal, the free distribution of their keys shows the simply inacceptable industry influence of the service. How can there be competition if their hosting services are given away for nothing? How can there be competition if customers get confused whenever they buy a game without a "bonus" Steam key?

I'll buy LoG2 eventually, because it's DRM free after all, but I would indeed prefer a DRM free version from an actually independent service. :?

However, an actual answer to the thread's question would be very welcome.

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Re: GOG and future Mac downloads

Post by Kthanid » Thu Sep 18, 2014 5:26 pm

Just goes to show that you can't please all of the people all of the time. I, for one, honestly appreciate that a purchase direct from AH (i.e. via the Humble Store) provides BOTH a DRM-free version and a Steam Key, because it seems very often these days that the customer must be forced to choose between the two and not get to capitalize on both options.

To your direct point, though:
How can there be competition if their hosting services are given away for nothing? How can there be competition if customers get confused whenever they buy a game without a "bonus" Steam key?
Well, their competitors could go ahead and do the same thing if they'd like, but I think the reality is that this is a space we're not going to be likely to see much in the way of major competition given the structure of the model unless games hosted by these platforms became completely DRM-free across the board and provided easy ways to export and import libraries in bulk. People, such as myself, who have amassed a collection on one platform or another are unlikely to want competition. We will, however, prefer to keep our titles centralized in which platform we have opted to support to keep from arbitrarily segregating our collection of games.

What gain could their be for someone like myself with hundreds of Steam titles if another platform comes along that I can't port those games to? It's already bad enough that I have four separate platforms that I support to deal with (GOG, Steam, Desura, and the collection of DRM-free games I keep local and offsite backup copies of). Do I really want more competition in this area to further divide my game library?

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Re: GOG and future Mac downloads

Post by petri » Thu Sep 18, 2014 5:31 pm

Vainamoinen wrote:I'll buy LoG2 eventually, because it's DRM free after all, but I would indeed prefer a DRM free version from an actually independent service. :?
I'm trying to follow your logic, but I'm lost.. You get both a DRM free version and a Steam key if you buy from us, where's the catch again? Do you mean that we should set up our own servers for distributing the game instead of using Humble's servers, or what's the problem?

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Re: GOG and future Mac downloads

Post by J. Trudel » Thu Sep 18, 2014 7:08 pm

petri wrote:
Vainamoinen wrote:I'll buy LoG2 eventually, because it's DRM free after all, but I would indeed prefer a DRM free version from an actually independent service. :?
I'm trying to follow your logic, but I'm lost.. You get both a DRM free version and a Steam key if you buy from us, where's the catch again? Do you mean that we should set up our own servers for distributing the game instead of using Humble's servers, or what's the problem?
I guess he thinks Humble bundle is associated with Valve because he gets a Steam key too. He should do like me and buy it both from you and GOG.
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Re: GOG and future Mac downloads

Post by petri » Thu Sep 18, 2014 8:08 pm

Ah ok, I see. And I can understand why it looks that way. It's just so much easier for developers to have the game on Steam and make the keys available through multiple stores. E.g. making a new version available to all users takes only a couple of minutes.

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